Feb 132009
This week, TalkBowling anwers a couple of viewer questions.
- Where should I put the pin for most hook on a Storm Virtual Gravity.
- What does it mean when a ball is reactive 2"-3"?
- Which do the three of us prefer, Roto Grip Cell, Storm Virtual Gravity, or the Storm Dimension?
All this and more on TalkBowling Episode #0013.
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Thanks for answering my question guys. I have been looking for something more aggressive than the smokin' inferno that I have. Because that is the strongest ball I have, all three of the balls I mentioned, the Virtual Gravity, Cell, and Dimension will all be stronger. There was definitely some good feedback which is going to help me decide.
From the 2007-08 USBC Playing Rules, Chaper 7, Section 2: the number of legal holes allowed in a bowling ball is 12. One for each digit on the hand, one weight hole, a vent hole for each grip hole, and one inspection hole. Obviously, the size and depth of each hole is limited by the USBC for legallity.
I know you guys have to try out all the new equipment, but what do you do with all of the balls afterwards?
hey guys another great video but i was wondering u you can help me out a lil bit im looking for a new ball that snaps HARD in the backend i tryed getting help from my local pro shop but he dosnt seem to like me or want to help soo i turn to you guys. im just looking for a ball that would hook more i have the cell pearl black widow but i want somthing that hooks more.
I second all of those suggestions for future shows.
I would especially like to know more about the perfect scale. The Roto Grip Cell is listed as a Heavy Oil ball, with a Perfect Scale number of 205.5. While the Storm Virtual Gravity is listed as a ball for Medium/Heavy oil, with a Perfect Scale number of 219.5. There seems to be some contradictions here. If you guys could explain the scale a little more that would be great.
I believe it says 5 for gripping and 1 balance hole
So..6 would be my answer
And by the way. I own botht the virtual and dimension vg hits harder dimension goes longer BOTH great balls looking forward to next week
The legal amount of holes in a bowling ball is you must plug 3/4 of the holes in the ball with you fingers so a convetional three fingers bowler can have four hole and if a bowler only puts the two grip fingers in the ball there can only be three holes. so depanding on the amount of fingers you put in the ball you must have 3/4 of the hole filled with fingers.
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On bowl.com, I saw a bowler demonstrate left push, right push, and straight push. She layed the ball down the same place, and hit the same breakpoint each time. As far as I could see, her rotation was the same on each shot. So, what is the purpose of "push"??
Hi Ken,
Thanks for submitting your comment to bowlingball.com. Since we do not know specifically which video you viewed on the other website, we will make a generalized reply in hopes of sharing useful arm swing information, OK??
The direction of push-away, which is the beginning of the back swing, can influence the direction the backswing moves in relation to the target line. If the same bowler in the video you viewed moved the ball from the top of the backswing to the same realigned position each time regardless of a "left push", a "right push", or a "straight push" , then the forward swing may not have changed direction in each example you viewed?
If a bowler (right handed as example) pushes the ball left and allows the backswing to swing to the outside edge of the bowling shoulder, then the likelihood of the forward swing will be to move from outside-in and the danger of pulling the ball inside the desired target line might occur. In an opposite example, if the bowler were to push right, the backswing would likely move to an inside the shoulder position at the top of the backswing and the forward swing might follow and inside-out direction?
The purpose of moving the ball initially to the left or to the right is to get the ball in a position at the top of the backswing to influence the direction of the forward swing. By choice, certified coaches will ask a bowler to begin the swing in a given direction so the backswing will arrive in such a position at the top of the swing that the forward swing will move to produce a desired swing path to the target down the lane.
An inside-out forward swing will help the bowler on conditions where a wider angle to the break point is required. An outside-in swing might best match a condition where following a straight path down the lane to the break point is required, like playing an angle outside the first arrow, as example. A straight push and the same type of swing path might work well where a modest angle to the break point is required?
The same examples apply in golf as well. We learn from top golf coaches that the inside-out swing path encourages a draw or hook to the golf ball. An outside-in swing path will produce a fade movement of the golf ball. The same logic holds true in bowling where the swing direction produces a given path to the target. Of course, if the release is the same, then you will get the same hooking action on the bowling ball but the ball path will vary depending on the swing path entering the release zone.
In summary, varying the swing path is a technique used by many advance bowlers to help the ball follow a path to a down lane target and avoid reacting sooner than desired in an unfavorably manner as the ball travels to the desired target.
So long as the swing is close to the sliding shoe on all three examples you saw on the video, the same release point on the floor will be achieved. If there is a tremendous amount of oil in the center of the lane (as is the case with probably 85% of house lane conditions across the U.S.), then all three swing examples will likely end up at the break point down the lane as you witnessed in the video.
On lane conditions which are difficult to achieve good scores on such as some of the PBA Experience patterns where there is a 3:1 oil ratio from center to edges on the lane, controlling the swing path so the ball does not react too soon and miss the desired break point is an advantage to skilled players.
We always recommend you consult a certified coach who can actually watch you roll deliveries down the lane and discuss your swing alignment and what will best match to the local lane conditions you typically encounter. Hope this information helps and thanks again, Ken, for visiting bowlingball.com.
I've got a question. Currently I roll a Jigsaw Corner with a dull finish. I get a pretty decent hook from it. I was wondering what would happen to my ball motion if I polished it and threw the exact same (same line, speed, wrist position, etc.) that I currently do? Would my strike ball still end up in the pocket? Would I have to move? I appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
You would most likely have to move. Polishing the ball helps it go farther down the lane before hooking, while storing more energy. Everything else, how far to move, etc… depends on your bowling style and the lane conditions. Can't hurt to try it, you can always have your ball resurfaced to take it back down to a dull finish.
One other thing, Brent… It is possible you can still hit the pocket with the same alignment as with the dull finish on the coverstock but the angle of entry from the break point into the pocket will change somewhat. The instantaneous velocity at impact will increase due to an overall increase in ball skid and less travel time on the lane from the reduction in surface friction on the ball. Although this might be a small matter, changing the surface will alter ball velocity and angle of entry. Of course, as John suggested, you may also have to adjust your alignment depending on the lane condition? One thing is for certain, experimentation will help you learn more about yor equipment and when altering the surface will help you the most.